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Holly - 2003-02-06 19:29:17 epochalator - 2003-02-06 20:14:28 Wow. So if you open up, share your feelings and go against the justin-lovefest, weeks of contiplation will reap the harsh sarcasm of the justin-fist. "I'm with ya, but I just report what I see," is a poor excuse for hurtful words. "I only report the truth." Too bad the underbelly of this diary is dark doubletalk full of ignorant excuses that the justin-groupies find so cute and endearing. Who said our public schools aren't teaching crap - they teach us to see the pretty sparkley things through the forest of loathe. They teach us to laugh off the words that drip from the bitter curmudgen. "I want a better world, I want us all to love one another - as long as they love me and I can call people how I see them and put them down - because its funny." ... - 2003-02-06 20:32:23 you know... honestly... no one makes you read this. dr-gonzo - 2003-02-06 21:03:43 I just had a really bad day involving a lot of self-bashing and what I take to be my first official nervous breakdown. I'm not overweight or anything. If I am, I call it curviness, and I'm quite comfortable with it. It doesn't really matter. I just had a bad day. I make a habit of reading your journal entries, and the conclusion of today's somehow made me feel a lot better. I can't explain why, at the moment. Maybe one day I will. But it's enough for me right now. in agreement - 2003-02-06 22:51:08 Oh, how I agree with "epochalator." In writing her letter, "X" merely gave you a chance to redeem yourself--to explain, or even just admit, how you seem to fall prey to the very flaws you criticize in others. Instead, you adress her need for self acceptance? You tell her that in being fat, she is weak? If "X" wanted a therapy session, she could have gone to Dr. Phil. All she asked of you was just to confess to a fault of yours, or to support what you said--neither of which you achieved. I am amazed at your skill in saying nothing with so many word. Either stand by your words, Justin, or admit that you were incorrect. If you don't p;an on doing either, than don't waste anyone's time with a reply. "X" is now more correct than ever before. I am certain that suddenly your words will ring a lot less true, that your kind and caring self will suddenly seem a lot more ordinary, alot more susceptible to that which you preach about so often. I hope you realize your error, and I hope that "X" is not terribly disappointed in your off-target reply. April - 2003-02-06 23:10:38 "in agreement," Justin did not waste your time, or anyone else's with his response. If you feel that it was a waste of time to read what he wrote, then you have only yourself to blame. DON'T read it and your time will not be wasted. I don't think some of you really understand what Justin is about. I mean, you OBVIOUSLY don't, if you read his explanation of why he writes, and still didn't comprehend the words, which I might add, WERE written in English. He doesn't write to please you, and by holding him to some standard set by YOU, then you are setting yourself up for dissapointment, and you deserve it. Lighten up and let go of jealousy. duh - 2003-02-06 23:10:47 this guy is making an album and he's obviously doing this to reach a 'crowd' (which he's done very nicely) so when his CD comes out.. he'll have ALLL these people TO BUY IT!! just wait until he says "my album is for sale, buy it! send me money!!!" April - 2003-02-06 23:17:02 Ok, I know I just signed this, but I have to say... I really hope that was a joke about buying an album. He sent one to me for free. I didn't even ask. He also... oh never mind. He's an extremely generous person though. And the crowd seems to reach to HIM, not the other way around. Danielle - 2003-02-07 00:04:16 What a great entry. I really admire your honesty, Justin. And it is one thing to have an opinion on something, but it is a totally different picture when you see the supporting cases for it. I have been provoked to start pondering WHY I think things that I do. This is my favorite entry so far. :) ~D~ PS. And to the person under the alias "duh": I already send him money on my own free will, because he is cool; and I don't think he's specifically after a huge fan audience anyways. [("And the crowd seems to reach to HIM, not the other way around" -April )] groupie - 2003-02-07 01:26:23 Hey! Some of MY friends and family are fat too ~ So that means i can make fun of the fatties too, huh? Screw literary responsibility. I smell moldy sandwiches... X - 2003-02-07 04:11:18 Hi, I already signed the guestbook but I see there is more conversation here than over there. I'm the woman who initially wrote the letter. I just wanted to say that I wasn't "horribly disappointed" with Justin's response. In fact, I enjoyed talking to him about it and wrote him a nice letter back. I don't entirely agree with what he has said (because the entry still seems at least somewhat mean to me, and I know that is in part due to my sensitivity to the subject), but I do feel like I understand a little better where he is coming from than I did before. crissy - 2003-02-07 08:06:09 this is long, but... if someone teased a person about something they were proud of, would it make a difference? i don't think it would, mostly because any person who is proud of something would not care about other people's opinions on it. the reason that people who are overweight are sensitive about it is because it IS unhealthy and IS about weakness. if they weren't "weak" when it comes to what they eat, they would not be fat (only 1% of obesity is attributed to genetics). with all of the knowledge we have regarding our bodies and how to care for them, you would think one would make that effort. it leads me to believe that they don't care enough about themselves. justin observed something and stated how he feels about it; at least he's being real and not hiding his thoughts behind false sentiments. he could have easily said exactly what people would ahve wanted to hear in his response, but didn't. as for the people who see hypocrisy in his statements, which one of you has never said anything that might be construed as contradictory to something you previously said? who, in our whole population, has every thought and feeling completely in sync? and who has never thought something that might be considered "bad", "wrong", or "offensive"? becca - 2003-02-07 08:19:31 hmmm.... i dont know if i buy all of justins excuses for his "harsh words", but come on, it's his diary, isnt the point of it to write about how you really feel? are we supposed to try and fool eachother that we dont expierence feelings of disgust towards certain things? at least he does it in a subtle, intelligent way. haha - 2003-02-07 08:20:25 FATTIS AT MICKY D'S ROCK MY WORLD!! Ulrike - 2003-02-07 11:26:32 Groupies: I think noone forced Justin to look at the fat people either. Epochalator was making an observation in the comments section, which invites comments. Group on! andie - 2003-02-07 11:35:09 I think part of everyone's issue with the entry comes from not understanding how Justin (rather grammatically awkwardly) uses the word "weak". It is not used to reflect personal weakness. It means "bad" or "lame" or "sucky" or "horrible" to him. If I say "I got fired," Justin says, "That's fucking weak. You must feel horrible!" etc. I think he should have used a different word there because it DOES sound like he's telling X that she's fat because she's weak. I know that's not what he meant, because we've talked about this and I know how he feels about it. I wrote an entry about this today too, if anyone wants to check it out. Justin, this might be a good time to re-examine your habit of using the word "weak" to mean something that it doesn't. mocksie - 2003-02-07 11:52:26 You are amazing, and though I've been somewhat offended by some things you've written too, I stand by you and your words. Shine on. andie - 2003-02-07 12:50:58 And ps, if Justin really did mean to tell X that SHE was weak for being fat (I have never known him to talk that way to anyone, ever) then hell yes, it was a rude fucking thing to say. Justin Winokur Grace - 2003-02-07 13:31:23 Boy, you guys are relentless. To clarify, I use the word "weak" as a slang term to mean "not fun" or "a real bummer" or "something which sucks". Example: Getting your leg bitten by a dog is WEAK. Getting hepatitis is totally WEAK. When your car breaks down and you are late to meet up with someone you wanted to have sex with, that is totally WEAK. Katie-In response to Epochalator's comment - 2003-02-07 13:38:55 Epochalator- I've read some comments you've posted previously on Justin's journal. All of which are equally condecending. If you dont like this man and what he has to say as much as you let on, then why do you insist on reading his journal? Your ignorance continues to puzzle me. His journal is a way of self expression, if you don't like what he has to say then simply stop reading it. If you're judging it in such a manner to make yourself seem more intelligent, I hate to break it to you, but you are failing miserably. You only come across as a fool who suddenly looked in the thesaurus for insulting words excceding the length of 5 letters and are dieing to use them on a truly good-natured man. Stop being so goddamn arrogant, get off the computer and actually do something with what you'd like to consider intelligence. Regards, Katie Dr. Phil - 2003-02-07 13:43:04 Don't bring me into this. I'm happily gathering material on a daily basis. mr. weight problem - 2003-02-23 17:39:05 I am the "very insecure man" mentioned in the entry. While I am unhappy with my fatness (which I have been shedding like a shedding thing that sheds), I think the point of my letter to you was that I'm more unhappy with the judgements people place on each other and how they exploit others' unhappiness (or self-loathing or WHATEVER). While lack of self-confidence is a problem, it can also give other people the ability to feed that problem and that branches off and creates its own line of SHIT. Okay. add your comment: |